Tortured Iraqis
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It's not about their humanity and dignity - it's about ours. When you're sent in to interrogate prisoners or even just guard them, it's supposed to be a job, not a photo op.
I can't really blame the women for taking delight in humiliating these scumbags - they're just getting revenge for their Arab sisters. But it's undignified to take pictures of your grinning face next to piles of naked prisoners. These folks are supposed to be professional soldiers and it's decidedly unprofessional to bring your personal emotions into your job.
I was scratching my head on that one too.
These people are in prison because they got caught shooting or planting bombs. Several of them apparently are former Saddam henchmen. I feel no pity for them whatsoever. You can pretend they're innocent schoolboys if you want, but US soldiers aren't there rounding up shoplifters and sticking them in POW camps. They don't have the resources for that. The only people who end up in these prisons are people who have been caught actively engaging in warfare.
You can also pretend the "Iraqi people" are outraged about these prison "abuses", but it's not true. Every interview I've seen of Iraqi civilians is the same - they're tickled pink to see their former torturers get what they've given.
So am I. One of the women wrote "rapist" on the arm of a prisoner. That speaks volumes to me.
jlabsher
Sorry about that chief.
Just heard from the congressional hearings, they moved prisoners around so the red cross couldn't interview them. Sounds vaguely familiar to some other things being moved around in Iraq to foil inspections.
These yahoo guards have screwed the pooch on this one, I think the general will bite the dust too. Heard that everybody in that battalion will have their medals pulled, they were going to get bronze stars.
One thing is for sure, it will get worse before it gets better.
These yahoo guards have screwed the pooch on this one, I think the general will bite the dust too. Heard that everybody in that battalion will have their medals pulled, they were going to get bronze stars.
One thing is for sure, it will get worse before it gets better.
Christy
b*tch rocket
The Pentagon "brass" hates Rummy because he came in and shook up their cush little world of privilege they were working under. A friend of a friend of a friend
told me, that Rummy has zero tolerance for BS and butt kissing. Rummy came along and shoveled out the sh!t speakers who painted a constant picture of roses and sunshine. The "brass" also isn't too pleased that he is trying to cut their "cash cow" defense projects. 
Toxick
Splat
An enemy combatant is an armed soldier trying to kill other armed soldiers. Despite the pictures of those grinning douchebags giving the thumbs up to their dog-pile, soldiers ostensibly have a sense of honor.
Terrorists are pig-####ing, baby-killing cowards who attack unarmed innocents.
That's the difference.
Toxick
Splat
You didn't specify that. You asked for a difference, and I think the difference is the honor factor.
From my vantage point there's a big difference. I don't harbor much ill-will against the people currently fighting for their homes in Iraq. Granted, they are the enemy, and I want to see my side win and if that means they have to be humiliated or killed, then so be it - but at the end of the day, I don't HATE them.
On the other hand, I HATE the terrorists. I hate what they stand for, and I hate everything about them.
Pete
Repete
Typical selective hearing? The prisoners that were moved around were undocumented prisoners dropped off for safekeeping by "other government agencies" (OGA's). That is double speak for CIA. The MP's are supposed to document all internees. When OGA's drop off prisoners to house them overnight these goobers were not processing them. They had to move them around to keep from getting busted because they were too lazy to do the paperwork, not necessarily because they were being abused.
Read the report.It sure will as long as the Democrats use it as a stir stick to keep everything political.
jlabsher
Sorry about that chief.
Not selective hearing, heard the testimony on WTOP. Here is the only link I could find though: http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-1/1083854858232100.xml
" ...moving prisoners to hide them from the red cross."
As far as the bronze star (we know the Army hands out medals like candy, but...) http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2138274,00.html
"many, many of those slated to receive the bronze star won't."
Must be that liberal press making things up again.
" ...moving prisoners to hide them from the red cross."
As far as the bronze star (we know the Army hands out medals like candy, but...) http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2138274,00.html
"many, many of those slated to receive the bronze star won't."
Must be that liberal press making things up again.
Pete
Repete
Here is the official report. I would rather read that than rely on the clarity of thought by some 25 year old staffer writing up questions for a congressman.
here is the report link