Tortured Iraqis

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Originally posted by SmallTown
But it wasn't big in the news until recently. For them, having the abuse being shown all over the world, it gave them "credebility". Plus it is just come out the magnitude of the problem which we, even in the US, wasn't aware of fully until recently.
Yep, it wasn't big at first, but it certainly had been reported - the media didn't care until they had the graphics. BTW where is the outcry that the media was given the classified report? Guess it's okay that the press exposes classified material when they want to bash the military and condemn all the troops as being villainous.

Also explain this to me, how does the humiliation of several detainees by some out of hand guards make credible the beheading of an American civilian that has nothing to do with our military or the detainees? It is people like you that have made these heinous acts credible in the terrorist’s eyes and thanks to you (and your buying into that crap) it will continue. Way to go.
 

SmallTown

Football season!
Originally posted by Ken King
It is people like you that have made these heinous acts credible in the terrorist’s eyes and thanks to you (and your buying into that crap) it will continue. Way to go.

Yea, exactly :rolleyes:

it will continue as long as we give these people any reason to keep doing this stuff.

As to why they chose to off a civilian? Easy access maybe? To show us they don't distinguish between military and civilian? Maybe they don't have the means to drop huge bombs all over a country, so they do it one-by-one? Not like we haven't killed civilians in our bombings of iraq and afghanistan.
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by SmallTown
it will continue as long as we give these people any reason to keep doing this stuff.
Yeah, like letting women vote and practicing a religion other than Islam. :duh:
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Originally posted by SmallTown
Yea, exactly :rolleyes:

it will continue as long as we give these people any reason to keep doing this stuff.

As to why they chose to off a civilian? Easy access maybe? To show us they don't distinguish between military and civilian? Maybe they don't have the means to drop huge bombs all over a country, so they do it one-by-one? Not like we haven't killed civilians in our bombings of iraq and afghanistan.
Your eyes have to be brown to be so full of sh!t. Al Qaeda will attack until they are all wiped from the face of the earth. They exist soley to destroy the USA and have vowed to do so. They do not need encouragement or a timely news event to do so, we have seen it before.

They chose to take the unarmed civilian because that is how cowards do things. They then tried to convince the world that they had an honorable reason for beheading him when in fact there is none.

Nope they might not be able to drop bombs but they sure know about car bombs, IEDs, homicide bombers, and using a plane as a several ton bomb. Guess they haven't killed civilians either, huh? And now your bretheren chose to capture an unarmed man, wrestle him down and saw off his head. Do me a favor and unwrap that towel from your head as it has strangled what little life fluid reaches the region used for reasoning in your demented brain.
 

SmallTown

Football season!
Originally posted by Ken King
Your eyes have to be brown to be so full of sh!t. Al Qaeda will attack until they are all wiped from the face of the earth. They exist soley to destroy the USA and have vowed to do so. They do not need encouragement or a timely news event to do so, we have seen it before.

They chose to take the unarmed civilian because that is how cowards do things. They then tried to convince the world that they had an honorable reason for beheading him when in fact there is none.

Nope they might not be able to drop bombs but they sure know about car bombs, IEDs, homicide bombers, and using a plane as a several ton bomb. Guess they haven't killed civilians either, huh? And now your bretheren chose to capture an unarmed man, wrestle him down and saw off his head. Do me a favor and unwrap that towel from your head as it has strangled what little life fluid reaches the region used for reasoning in your demented brain.

There is no towel around my head :confused:

My bretheren? Not quite. But in typical fashion, you go completely off topic when you don't have a legit argument.

Cowards? Possibly. Only using actions such as prisoner abuse to a weak excuse for killing? Possibly.

The problem is, Ken, you will NEVER destroy al qaeda. It is more of an idea than a group. As long as people hate the US (will always happen) there will always be people killing us. Yes, I know we all get the warm fuzzy with dubya goes on the air and says we're making great progress in the war on terror and we are safer today than we were at 9/11.

But if you want to play this game, please tell me how undressing prisoners, and doing god knows what to them is in any way helping the war on terror... What? I can't hear you? Did you say it does nothing to help? I agree.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Originally posted by SmallTown
But if you want to play this game, please tell me how undressing prisoners, and doing god knows what to them is in any way helping the war on terror...

It might not help, but don't you feel that anyone who wants to hurt and kill Americans deserves to be degraded and humiliated?
 

vraiblonde

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Originally posted by Tonio
don't you feel that anyone who wants to hurt and kill Americans deserves to be degraded and humiliated?
Where have you been? ST has been very clear in his desire to see Americans degraded and humiliated, not to mention killed. He thinks anyone who kills or tortures an American is justified and when the US fights back, we're a bunch of thugs and dirtbags.

He thinks Bush is Hitler and all soldiers are Nazis - he's said so on several occasions.

He thinks it's horrible to make Iraqi soldiers dress in women's panties, but it's A-OK to chop off the head of an American civilian.

THIS is what we're up against - not those savages in the Middle East but the traitors right here in our own country.
 

SmallTown

Football season!
Originally posted by Tonio
It might not help, but don't you feel that anyone who wants to hurt and kill Americans deserves to be degraded and humiliated?

Not sure how that helps anything, but sure, if it is within the rules.

I don't believe public humiliation was part of the UN resolution that you guys like to quote with regards to our reasons for being in Iraq. But i'll read it again to make sure.
 

SmallTown

Football season!
Originally posted by vraiblonde
Where have you been? ST has been very clear in his desire to see Americans degraded and humiliated, not to mention killed. He thinks anyone who kills or tortures an American is justified and when the US fights back, we're a bunch of thugs and dirtbags.

He thinks Bush is Hitler and all soldiers are Nazis - he's said so on several occasions.

He thinks it's horrible to make Iraqi soldiers dress in women's panties, but it's A-OK to chop off the head of an American civilian.

THIS is what we're up against - not those savages in the Middle East but the traitors right here in our own country.

Please pass some of what you're smoking, sounds like some good stuff!

No where did I say I want Americans degraded, humiliated or killed. Please find where I said I wanted that.

Did not say Bush was hitler and all soldiers are nazis. Again, please reference.

Yes, I think it is wrong that we don't follow the international laws, but no where did I say chopping off an american head is OK.

Talk about pulling stuff out of your a$$. Nice try there, Vrai. Now lets get back to the topic or do you want to continue to make yourself look like a complete a$$?
 

SuperGrover

jack of all trades
misrepresentation of the facts and name-calling is a sign of someone who clearly doesn't have anything meaningful to say.


geneva convention
ucmj
civilization
honor and courage
us constitution

mmm... should we throw all that out in the name of war?
 

SmallTown

Football season!
Originally posted by SuperGrover
misrepresentation of the facts and name-calling is a sign of someone who clearly doesn't have anything meaningful to say.

Uh oh, looks like someone is getting a first class invitiation to St. Marys Lake! :killingme :killingme :killingme
 

BuddyLee

Football addict
Originally posted by cariblue
Okay, maybe I'm wrong on this one, but it would stand to reason if the address was removed once, that vrai doesn't want it posted.

pssst you cant say pre-c*m anymore either.

:wink:
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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Okay, let me completely and totally clear, within the bounds of the English language, which is the only one I know with any fluency:

Please do not post links or pointers of any kind to porn sites. It doesn't matter if what you want people to see isn't the porn. If the site contains porn, please do not link to it or point to it in any way.

I cannot spend the day taking phone calls from outraged readers.

TIA.
 
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