(a) Interesting how holier than thou you were in your previous post....claiming that Klien wrote just an opinion piece...blah...blah...blah...
(b) Well just to point out the stunningly obvious: ELon Musk's comments were nothing more than an opinion as well. What medical training does he have? None.
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(c) Your point that this entire thing is political and not medical is also rather stupid given the worldwide reaction. You seem to ignore the really basic fact that this is not a US centric problem...but you approach it from only a US centric view (which is typical of the Trump cult)
China and Italy have quarantined rather large swaths of their territory. That is not a political reaction now is it?
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(a) First, it's Klein, not Klien. Second, nothing "holier than thou" about my comments. Klein is strawmanning to relieve his #TDS; just like you do. There was nothing helpful in his opinion piece (as in, helpfully adding to the conversation about the coronavirus). As such, my comments were made in response to
@truby20 posting it; that Klein's piece really didn't add to the point Truby might having been trying to make.
(b) No disagreement that Musk offered an opinion. That's my point: he offered an opinion and was pounced upon because people wanted his opinion to align with their opinions (some desperately). That's not reasoned discourse (which is what I'm trying to encourage and something you seem hell-bent on not encouraging); that's mob behavior.
(c) First, I didn't say "this entire thing is political and not medical"; I said it was MORE of a political problem at this point than a medical one. In fact, Klein's opinion piece demonstrates that quite well. Second, as far as your comment, re: US-centric vs a global problem, so? Just what exactly...? I've never denied it was a global problem. And as to China and Italy doing what they're doing, how do you know that there isn't a political angle to what they are doing medically? If you have insight, please post your thoughts and links. I've made the comment that there is almost certainly a political aspect to at least some of those countries' behavior because it makes sense to ensure the political dimension(s) is(are) addressed. In Italy's case, the government is always (at least, generally) seen as incompetent so it is important for it to not just stand there, but do something. In China's case, there is a similar problem in that the CCP may be worried that it appears weak. As such, decisive action is an imperative. But there's also a possibility that China is reacting in the manner it is because it accomplishes other imperatives important to an authoritarian regime. But what about the other 100+ countries? Many have confirmed cases of the coronavirus, are not reacting (yet) as China and Italy (or even Iran) are, and are assessing as the situation develops. So using just two of many to prove there's something wrong with the Trump administration's approach is weak proof (unless, of course, you're going on record and saying that what all the other countries are doing is equally incompetent; something I don't see you doing. I see you being, like Klein, fixated on Trump. So who is being US-centric?).
So, as I close, three suggestions. First, actually read what you're responding to (not just my posts, but others', as well). You tend not to do that and it's not a good look. Frankly, it's sloppy. Second, it makes for helpful, reasoned discourse if you consider the possibility that you may have missed the point and ask for clarification in advance (or apologize) rather than going on the attack and being such a boor (as you generally do/are). In other words, don't be such a хуй. Frankly, it's juvenile. Third, your spelling and grammar mistakes undercut whatever point you try to make (as it conveys haste and emotion, rather than insight and intellect). Frankly, it's off-putting.
So if you'd like to come across as less of a troll and more of an enthusiastic debater worth reading either re-read what you're about to post before posting or take up
@vraiblonde's occasional reminders to become a Premo member so you can correct your mistakes
ex post posto (as it were). Both would also help to lessen your numerous mistakes in logic and reading comprehension.
Unless, of course, all you are really interested in is trolling and/or rhetorical onanism.
Cheers.
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