holy sh!t

[SmallTown]

If we ever hope to give the troops everything they need we'd have to cut off the welfare chics from the gov't teet and we wouldn't want to do that now would we.

works for me

 

[Steve]

Four words. 'The buck stops here'.

Buddy, things are a lot different at the White House than at SFW, dig?

 

[BuddyLee]

Buddy, things are a lot different at the White House than at SFW, dig?

When something bad happens who does the general American public blame? I thought so.

 

[Steve]

When something bad happens who does the general American public blame? I thought so.

I think you meant to say "Who does the media blame?" Correct?

 

[Steve]

The general American public blames no one. They get the jist from the news, which is based upon the opinions of the politicians the news wants you to see and hear.

 

[BuddyLee]

I think you meant to say "Who does the media blame?" Correct?

How's about both. The president is supposed to be the ringmaster running the show. If something goes wrong in the show the sh*t should roll down hill and mistakes should be taken care of. However, the show is supposed to be perfect in get-go.

 

[Steve]

Bush "lied", Rather was "mis-lead"...........................................

 

[BuddyLee]

The general American public blames no one. They get the jist from the news, which is based upon the opinions of the politicians the news wants you to see and hear.

So your saying in essence that the general American public has no opinion?

 

[SmallTown]

Bush "lied", Rather was "mis-lead"...........................................

Rather should go, Bush should stay because he was misguided

 

[crabcake]

When something bad happens who does the general American public blame? I thought so.

This is an issue (to me) of common sense. No CEO or President can be everywhere, every minute of the day. That's why they appoint people who they believe are educated and capable of making decisions in their area of expertise.
I do not sign on to the belief that you hang the top dog for something someone down on the food chain did. (e.g., I don't hold our president responsible for a terrorist having a pair of panties pulled over his head).

 

[crabcake]

However, the show is supposed to be perfect in get-go.

inch: you needed to be woken up.

 

[SmallTown]

This is an issue (to me) of common sense. No CEO or President can be everywhere, every minute of the day. That's why they appoint people who they believe are educated and capable of making decisions in their area of expertise.
I do not sign on to the belief that you hang the top dog for something someone down on the food chain did. (e.g., I don't hold our president responsible for a terrorist having a pair of panties pulled over his head).

I agree, but the top dog is quick to take credit when things go well. You can't have it both ways. If you're going to take credit when things are good, you have to step up when things are bad.

 

[BuddyLee]

This is an issue (to me) of common sense. No CEO or President can be everywhere, every minute of the day. That's why they appoint people who they believe are educated and capable of making decisions in their area of expertise.
I do not sign on to the belief that you hang the top dog for something someone down on the food chain did. (e.g., I don't hold our president responsible for a terrorist having a pair of panties pulled over his head).

Good example. I side with you on this but it is just how the American public is. When something bad happens its much easier to blame one guy than thousands.

 

[crabcake]

So your saying in essence that the general American public has no opinion?

I'm thinking Steve is saying you have a group of people who just "believe" what they hear on the news and vote that way vs. delving deeper to learn the facts or apply a tad of common sense and tune up their monitor.

 

[UrbanPancake]

What????

4 minutes ago, he essentially called No Child Left Behind a failure; now he's touting his plans to continue to fund it.

:flipflop:

Yes, it's a failure because President Bush has underfunded it! Kerry will fund the program the way it should have been funded in the beginning. Stop taking what he says out of context. I could do the same thing about Bush....... But that would need a whole forum in itself.

 

[BuddyLee]

inch: you needed to be woken up.

Well shouldn't it be? Obviously its not but from all the promises that a candidate makes it does make one wonder.

 

[crabcake]

I agree, but the top dog is quick to take credit when things go well. You can't have it both ways. If you're going to take credit when things are good, you have to step up when things are bad.

As a federal employee, I can assure you that when our president gets kudos for doing something good, the "kudos" roll down hill as well.

Do you expect ABC, Fox, NBC, et al to put every single person responsible for the effort (good or bad) on the 6 o'clock news?

 

[BuddyLee]

I'm thinking Steve is saying you have a group of people who just "believe" what they hear on the news and vote that way vs. delving deeper to learn the facts or apply a tad of common sense and tune up their monitor.

I can agree with that.

 

[crabcake]

Yes, it's a failure because President Bush has underfunded it! Kerry will fund the program the way it should have been funded in the beginning. Stop taking what he says out of context. I could do the same thing about Bush....... But that would need a whole forum in itself.

You're right ... I think Kerry's exact words were " the president's no child left behind plan left 1.xzy million children behind."

I'm not saying I agree with the policy, but that statement reads "failure" if I ever heard one.

 

[UrbanPancake]

I agree, but the top dog is quick to take credit when things go well. You can't have it both ways. If you're going to take credit when things are good, you have to step up when things are bad.

I agree with you SmallTown. Bush blames our economy on former Presidents. How convienent for him. But when things are going good (I'm trying to remember a time in the last four years when things have gone good) he takes all the credit. Wow he so modest.