NRA issues condolences

[itsbob]

It's valid leverage to use. The good-ole boy, card carrying NRA gun nut is also known to be xenophobic. If I can show that the NRA's policies allow non-resident south koreans to buy guns and shoot our students, maybe the cogs in their brains might turn one clink and realize that the NRA has gone too far.

Of course many non-resident students were also killed...

I didn't know the NRA set national policy or passed and enforced laws in this country. When you get right down to it, the NRA has no policies that effect anyone other than their members. The NRA policies don't allow or dis-allow ANYONE from buying, carrying, or firing weapons.

 

[Pete]

Forestool,

The point here is this guy was clearly homicidal bent on killing, if he couldn't get a gun he could have just made a crude pipe bombs and walked down the hall chucking then into the classrooms. You are focusing on the tool and not the mentality.

There should be a ban on homicidal maniacs.

 

[This_person]

Forestool,

The point here is this guy was clearly homicidal bent on killing, if he couldn't get a gun he could have just made a crude pipe bombs and walked down the hall chucking then into the classrooms. You are focusing on the tool and not the mentality.

There should be a ban on homicidal maniacs.

Don't confuse the issue with the truth!!!!

 

[itsbob]

Actually the 2nd amendment is only for members of a well regulated militia.

Go back and read your Constitution Sooper Patriot.

I've had this argument with you before and you lost.. Define what a militia is.

It's not the National Guard, it's not the Army, it's armed citizens willing and able to take up THEIR arms to protect their community, their cities and their country.

Have you ever wondered why China, with an Army 5 times the size of our own has never invaded? Or Russia, with all their hate and discontent of us in the past, with an Army, AF and Navy 3 times the size of ours never attacked? Everyone in the world is terrified of our "militia". Chinese and Russian, and many other intelligence services in teh world know where our military is, where our tanks are, where our ships are, but they have NO idea where Billy Bob is, or how well armed he is. They could decimate our military, and still have a foe more formidable than their own military: Armed CITIZENS!

 

[aps45819]

D.C. asks appeals court to reconsider its decision striking down handgun ban
WASHINGTON District of Columbia officials want a federal appeals court to reconsider its decision to overturn the city's ban on handguns.
Lawyers for the district filed a motion today, arguing that the ruling will "severely limit" gun control on both the local and federal levels.
A three-judge appeals panel ruled last month that the city's gun control laws are unconstitutional. The court rejected the city's argument that the Second Amendment right to bear arms only applies to state militias.
The city wants a new hearing before all eleven judges of the court.
Mayor Adrian Fenty says dumping the regulations would be a blow to crime-fighting efforts. He says "more guns very simply lead to more violence."
But opponents of the gun ban say it keeps people from being able to protect themselves..

Very good example. That's in DC with a mostly black population. Gun laws have historically been aimed at blacks with the most restrictive laws in large black population centers. If they were alowed to defend themselves from criminals they might decide to do other things for themselves and then attempt to break the chains of their Democrat Nanny state owners.

 

[forestal]

People aren't nearly as intimidated by a pipe-bomb wielding assailant, like they are by someone shooting at them. The death toll would have been much, much less.

Forestool,

The point here is this guy was clearly homicidal bent on killing, if he couldn't get a gun he could have just made a crude pipe bombs and walked down the hall chucking then into the classrooms. You are focusing on the tool and not the mentality.

There should be a ban on homicidal maniacs.

 

[itsbob]

People aren't nearly as intimidated by a pipe-bomb wielding assailant, like they are by someone shooting at them. The death toll would have been much, much less.

You really are an idiot, I was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but that statement right there.. You're a moron.

Stick to speaking about what you know, things like diaper rash, and menstrual cramps, and leave the important stuff to people that actually have an idea of what they are saying.

 

[aps45819]

Have you ever wondered why China, with an Army 5 times the size of our own has never invaded? Or Russia, with all their hate and discontent of us in the past, with an Army, AF and Navy 3 times the size of ours never attacked? Everyone in the world is terrified of our "militia". Chinese and Russian, and many other intelligence services in the world know where our military is, where our tanks are, where our ships are, but they have NO idea where Billy Bob is, or how well armed he is. They could decimate our military, and still have a foe more formidable than their own military: Armed CITIZENS!

Wolverines

 

[Pete]

People aren't nearly as intimidated by a pipe-bomb wielding assailant, like they are by someone shooting at them. The death toll would have been much, much less.

It is easier because you don't have to face them to kill them. Flick, light, toss, on to the next room.

You think 4 or 5 pipe bombs filled with ball bearings would kill fewer people, or do you think 22 deaths would have made this less a trajedy than 32?

Intimidated? I worry less about being intimidated than I do being dead. Intimidated is temporary, dead is permanent.

 

[forestal]

Oops. VRAI is gonna get on my case for this one.

Yep I'm a criminal.

Sorry VRAI.

Did you get permission to redistribute this information or are you simply a criminal?

 

[vraiblonde]

Oops. VRAI is gonna get on my case for this one.

Yep I'm a criminal.

Sorry VRAI.

:snort:

And it even said down at the bottom that this story may not be reproduced or redistributed without permission.

 

[This_person]

People aren't nearly as intimidated by a pipe-bomb wielding assailant, like they are by someone shooting at them. The death toll would have been much, much less.

Based on what? Are we more afraid of the roadside bombs, or the shooting "insurgent" terrorist in Iraq? Did the first WTC attack occur with a 9MM or a truck bomb? People have been shooting at our military in Iraq for years, and we still lost more in a morning in 2001 from a couple of planes. I accept that you can have an intellectual (although, wrong) disagreement on what the (very clear) second ammendment means, but how in the world would you come to this conclusion about bombs?

 

[Larry Gude]

Say it isn't so...

I'm just wondering if you gun nuts think the 2nd amendment extends to South Koreans who aren't citizens of the U.S.?

It doesn't of course, but the NRA has made it incredibly easy for anyone to gain access for firearms.

...my dear forestal. Are you profiling?

 

[Larry Gude]

forestal...

People aren't nearly as intimidated by a pipe-bomb wielding assailant, like they are by someone shooting at them. The death toll would have been much, much less.

...do a little surfing about the word 'intifada'. What you will ignore is that Palestinian suicide attacks originated with an armed attacker going to public places and shooting innocent people.

What you will also ignore is that this didn't last long as Israeli's are freaking armed. They shot so many that it simply wasn't worth it any more to have local headlines "Militant attacks crowded market. Crowded market shoots snot out of militant."

So, thus began the suicide/homicide bomber.

Had those gun nuts simply accepted being shot we wouldn't be having this other problems, don't you think?

 

[Larry Gude]

Nah...

Wow, you're really stretching it here.

I'm hoping to take advantage of the general xenophobic nature of the 2nd amendment crowd...

...we believe people of any background should be able to shoot bad guys.

 

[Larry Gude]

But where...

thats a nice thought, but in reality the school would probably still have a no weapons on campus rule, so the law abiding students who were killed wouldn't have had weapons anyway.

But i agree that in general the public havign the option to carry helps to prevent stuff like this.

...did that notion come from? The gun banners.

 

[Midnightrider]

...did that notion come from? The gun banners.

It doesn't matter where it comes from, the victims wouldn't have had guns.

 

[Larry Gude]

What if you are...

It's valid leverage to use. The good-ole boy, card carrying NRA gun nut is also known to be xenophobic. If I can show that the NRA's policies allow non-resident south koreans to buy guns and shoot our students, maybe the cogs in their brains might turn one clink and realize that the NRA has gone too far.

Of course many non-resident students were also killed...

...a black kid at a college and you've been hassled by a bunch of NRA/KKK type white kids, threatened, maybe hit, maybe they called you a nappy headed ho and threatened to kill you? Should you be allowed to carry a firearm if think you should?


What if you are gay, a real flamer and a bunch of NRA type rednecks are bothering you on campus and are promising to 'straighten you out' when they get done with the '######'? Should you be allowed to conceal and carry if you think it is a good idea?


What if you are a female and a bunch of NRA/KKK rednecks are threatening you and promising to 'get them some' at your expense when they get done with the black guy and the ###? Should you have the right to keep and bare if you think it might save your life?

How about if your nut job Asian/NRA/KKK/English major ex-boyfriend has threatened you and your new lover and promises to kill you, him and everyone else on campus? Should you have the right to defend yourself? Or just take it, see what happens and wait for the chalk guy?

Well?

 

[Larry Gude]

What if one...

It doesn't matter where it comes from, the victims wouldn't have had guns.

..of them was a nut job/NRA/KKK type who wanted to learn German so he could read Mein Kampf, but otherwise read poetry, wished no one ill and happend to carry a gun because the hippes kept making fun of his mustache and threatening his life?

He'd be my new best friend if he shot English Major before English Major killed me.

 

[huntr1]

One law enforcement official said Cho's backpack contained a receipt for a March purchase of a Glock 9 mm pistol. Cho held a green card, meaning he was a legal, permanent resident, federal officials said. That meant he was eligible to buy a handgun unless he had been convicted of a felony.

legal purchase

The serial numbers on the two weapons had been filed off, the officials said.

illegal act