NRA issues condolences

[Larry Gude]

We need a new law!!!!!!

legal purchase

illegal act

NO SHOOTING PEOPLE WITH GUNS THAT HAVE THE SERIAL NUMBER WIPED OFF....AND WE MEAN IT.

 

[itsbob]

It doesn't matter where it comes from, the victims wouldn't have had guns.

If they had guns they wouldn't have been victims...

 

[Toxick]

NO SHOOTING PEOPLE WITH GUNS THAT HAVE THE SERIAL NUMBER WIPED OFF....AND WE MEAN IT.

"Maniac has responded with a scornful remark!"

"Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, 'or else'".

 

[Larry Gude]

Guffaw!!!!!

"Maniac has responded with a scornful remark!"

"Approach, and repeat ultimatum in an even firmer tone of voice. Add the words, 'or else'".

...

 

[huntr1]

NO SHOOTING PEOPLE WITH GUNS THAT HAVE THE SERIAL NUMBER WIPED OFF....AND WE MEAN IT.

Ban guns and only criminals (like this murdering scumwad) will have them.

Of course, then I'd be a criminal too cause there ain't no way I am giving mine up.

 

[aps45819]

It doesn't matter where it comes from, the victims wouldn't have had guns.

read my sig

 

[This_person]

Ban guns and only criminals (like this murdering scumwad) will have them.

Of course, then I'd be a criminal too cause there ain't no way I am giving mine up.

Why, oh why, is this such a hard thing for some to realize and accept??

 

[Midnightrider]

read my sig

read my post

 

[Larry Gude]

Maybe he...

read my post

...also is too stupid?

We're expanding the club house in anticipation of all the new members resulting in you being in charge of deciding who is and who is not too stupid.

 

[forestal]

maybe you ought to talk to the police if you are being threatened.

Being threatened is no justification in itself to have the right to carry a fire-arm.

I think I said this before, but if your assailant thinks you have a gun they will draw first when your back is turned, and not expecting anything.

A well armed society is a nervous paranoid society.

...a black kid at a college and you've been hassled by a bunch of NRA/KKK type white kids, threatened, maybe hit, maybe they called you a nappy headed ho and threatened to kill you? Should you be allowed to carry a firearm if think you should?


What if you are gay, a real flamer and a bunch of NRA type rednecks are bothering you on campus and are promising to 'straighten you out' when they get done with the '######'? Should you be allowed to conceal and carry if you think it is a good idea?


What if you are a female and a bunch of NRA/KKK rednecks are threatening you and promising to 'get them some' at your expense when they get done with the black guy and the ###? Should you have the right to keep and bare if you think it might save your life?

How about if your nut job Asian/NRA/KKK/English major ex-boyfriend has threatened you and your new lover and promises to kill you, him and everyone else on campus? Should you have the right to defend yourself? Or just take it, see what happens and wait for the chalk guy?

Well?

 

[forestal]

How about 100% mandatory FBI background check for every gun purchase that is made, public, private, or gun show, and requiring a license too.

NO SHOOTING PEOPLE WITH GUNS THAT HAVE THE SERIAL NUMBER WIPED OFF....AND WE MEAN IT.

 

[forestal]

Pipe bomb could quickly be defused, or thrown out the window.

Not a whole lot you could do when someone is pointing a gun straight at you.

It is easier because you don't have to face them to kill them. Flick, light, toss, on to the next room.

You think 4 or 5 pipe bombs filled with ball bearings would kill fewer people, or do you think 22 deaths would have made this less a trajedy than 32?

Intimidated? I worry less about being intimidated than I do being dead. Intimidated is temporary, dead is permanent.

 

[This_person]

maybe you ought to talk to the police if you are being threatened.

Being threatened is no justification in itself to have the right to carry a fire-arm.

I think I said this before, but if your assailant thinks you have a gun they will draw first when your back is turned, and not expecting anything.

A well armed society is a nervous paranoid society.

So would you agree that the police need no guns? Or, if they need guns, why shouldn't I be able to have one?

If authority is all that is needed to stop harrassment, and harrassment will stop when authorities are notified, then why would they need guns? After all, no one has ever violated a restraining order, right? No one has ever been intimidated, reported it, and then still been harrassed after, right?

Because, if they had, your argument would make no sense. You would just be spouting pointless rhetoric with no value, just (apparently) for the sake of argument. That's not what you're doing, is it?

 

[Roughidle]

Pipe bomb could quickly be defused, or thrown out the window.

Not a whole lot you could do when someone is pointing a gun straight at you.

I can picture your mouth moving but only this coming out.

 

[forestal]

Scenario #1 you're sitting in a classroom and a pipe bomb is thrown in. You take two seconds to pull the fuse out or toss it out the window.

Scenario #2 you're sitting in a class room when someone starts shooting people from the doorway. Not much you can do here to stop the bullets other than make a suicidal charge at the shooter.

Which scenario would you rather be in?

Based on what? Are we more afraid of the roadside bombs, or the shooting "insurgent" terrorist in Iraq? Did the first WTC attack occur with a 9MM or a truck bomb? People have been shooting at our military in Iraq for years, and we still lost more in a morning in 2001 from a couple of planes. I accept that you can have an intellectual (although, wrong) disagreement on what the (very clear) second ammendment means, but how in the world would you come to this conclusion about bombs?

 

[forestal]

I think you're overlooking my "general" caveat. There are exceptions.

...we believe people of any background should be able to shoot bad guys.

 

[huntr1]

How about 100% mandatory FBI background check for every gun purchase that is made, public, private, or gun show, and requiring a license too.

Waste of money. If you have to have a license, I would assume they would do the background check before issuing it. If you have the license, why should they have to spend the $$ on additional background checks?

 

[forestal]

The Israelis are armed because their attackers are armed. So everybody had a gun and their society is much less safe than ours.

Your supposition that if guns were banned, that pipe bombers would suddenly kill as many people as guns would is wholly outrageous.

...do a little surfing about the word 'intifada'. What you will ignore is that Palestinian suicide attacks originated with an armed attacker going to public places and shooting innocent people.

What you will also ignore is that this didn't last long as Israeli's are freaking armed. They shot so many that it simply wasn't worth it any more to have local headlines "Militant attacks crowded market. Crowded market shoots snot out of militant."

So, thus began the suicide/homicide bomber.

Had those gun nuts simply accepted being shot we wouldn't be having this other problems, don't you think?

 

[This_person]

How about 100% mandatory FBI background check for every gun purchase that is made, public, private, or gun show, and requiring a license too.

As much as I hate to admit it, for me personally, this is a fair and equitable compromise. Federal law allowing each and every citizen who passes a background check to carry a concealed weapon at any time, any place. No more limits by schools, no more limits anywhere that the police are not limited (with the possible exception of a courtroom). The one and only real limit would be passing a background check that would include, basically:
Are you sane?
Have you been convicted of a crime?

Here's your card, allowing you to buy, keep, use, etc. any type of gun. No more registering, etc. We could go back to having gun teams in schools, teaching kids proper gun safety. Forest, you've made a great point.

 

[itsbob]

Pipe bomb could quickly be defused, or thrown out the window.

How many bombs have you made? How many explosives have you fused or "de-fused"?? What's the burn rate on six inches of time fuse? How about 1.5 inches of time fuse? What does time fuse taste like, is it the same or different than det cord?

I'll wait, you go ahead and google...

Not a whole lot you could do when someone is pointing a gun straight at you.

Shoot back..