Push for 'shall-issue' concealed carry in MD

[Sharon]

Can any one think of some other examples?

Other than the washer/dryer you haven't seen my basement.

 

[ylexot]

Guns have 1 ultimate purpose: to kill...

I guess the same could be said about bows and arrows, but I really want to get a bow and do some archery in the backyard. Do you want to ban them too? Don't you know that guns can be used for recreational sport as well. I've fired thousands of rounds and haven't killed anything. I just got a shotgun. I don't hunt, but I like to shoot skeet.

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." Thomas Jefferson, Encyclopedia of T. Jefferson, 318 (Foley, Ed., reissued 1967). (Letter to Peter Carr, his 15-year-old nephew, August 19, 1785)

I have no problem with giving carry permits, but I think it should require taking a thorough course (not just the 15-minute safety course for morons).

 

[huntr1]

Smoke detectors.

Fire extinguishers.

911

The court system.

A cop.

A fireman.

Emergency survival kit.

Spare tire.

The emergency room.

Life and/or disability insurance.

Air bags.

Can any one think of some other examples?

In the case of J. South, Spoiled and Sparx:
Brain

 

[SmallTown]

In the case of J. South, Spoiled and Sparx:
Brain

For them I was going to say penis, but close enough

 

[Larry Gude]

We're going about this wrong...

...What about my friggin civil rights? What about choice? I choose to exist, to be ME, when I feel like it, through gunfire. What about my right to express myself through my art?

I have a plate rack and fired over 6,000 rounds last year. Each round (except for the odd flyer) splats in a certain and specific but never repeating form, leaving an impression that defines who I am, what I feel. My id.

I may paint over the splats but each new one is the direct descendent of the prior, a lineage of existential armoured aura if you will.

What if I'm having a .45 day after a long week of 9mm despondancy and CAN'T speak through gunpowder because someone wants to violate my freedom, my liberty, my RIGHT to shoot steel?

What about me, what about my ancestors, what about...my children? And theirs?

I shoot.

Therefore...I am.

 

[aps45819]

You just see that the tacklebox got robbed at night by a mcdonalds manager... ;\

Do you think any weapons stolen from such places are going to wind up in the hands of law abiding people? Or are they going to murders, rapists and theives? These folks WILL carry them conceled.
I don't understand your objection to allowing someone that doesn't assualt other people or their property to protect themselves as specified in the constitution.

 

[Sparx]

Ohio just passed a conceled weapons law a few months ago but my father in law in Ohio who thinks he needs to carry a gun everywhere he goes, complains because most private businesses he frequents has a sign up that says no weapons allowed...
poor baby what's he gonna do?

Now some businesses are putting metal detectors at the entrances..just what we all need.

 

[itsbob]

Ohio just passed a conceled weapons law a few months ago but my father in law in Ohio who thinks he needs to carry a gun everywhere he goes, complains because most private businesses he frequents has a sign up that says no weapons allowed...
poor baby what's he gonna do?

Now some businesses are putting metal detectors at the entrances..just what we all need.

Other then a courthouse, I carried mine everywhere.. signs in businesses don't mean much. and do you REALLY think that sign is going to stop a criminal from carrying in a gun to rob the store? Business owner needs to have his head examined..

But then again, it's just another way for a liberal to force his beliefs on law abiding citizens..

 

[Sparx]

Other then a courthouse, I carried mine everywhere.. signs in businesses don't mean much. and do you REALLY think that sign is going to stop a criminal from carrying in a gun to rob the store? Business owner needs to have his head examined..

But then again, it's just another way for a liberal to force his beliefs on law abiding citizens..

So you were disrepectful enough to the owners of businesses to carry your weapon into places where they were not allowed? That seems to make you a criminal doesn't it?

 

[aps45819]

So you were disrepectful enough to the owners of businesses to carry your weapon into places where they were not allowed? That seems to make you a criminal doesn't it?

Not unless it's againt the LAW. I can't decide the speed limit on my street just because I live there.

 

[Sparx]

Not unless it's againt the LAW. I can't decide the speed limit on my street just because I live there.

That doesn't make sense. If I tell you I don't want you in my store (for any reason) and you come in anyway, you are trespassing and that is against the law.

 

[itsbob]

So you were disrepectful enough to the owners of businesses to carry your weapon into places where they were not allowed? That seems to make you a criminal doesn't it?

Disrespectful MAYBE, but lawbreaker NOT even.. I got the little piece of paper in my pocket with my picture on it that says I have the legal right to possess a concealed weapon. The business owner doesn't pass laws, what's he going to do, call the cops to enforce HIS law? Would be like my neighborhood oulawing cars on our streets.
When I received my permit the chief of police told me the places I was not allowed to carry. True Value wasn't on the list.

 

[itsbob]

Secondly, if he/she wants to lose my business, I have no problem taking my money somewhere else where it would be more appreciated.

They'd probably just give my money to some lost casue like Hillary for pres or sumpin..

 

[itsbob]

AND the biggest case in point, for concealed carry at businesses.. THE POST OFFICE... it's against the law to carry a concealed weapon into a post office.. but where has some of the worst handgun/gun violence inour country taken place?? Where the criminal KNOWS there is nobody there to stop him.

 

[Sparx]

Disrespectful MAYBE, but lawbreaker NOT even.. I got the little piece of paper in my pocket with my picture on it that says I have the legal right to possess a concealed weapon. The business owner doesn't pass laws, what's he going to do, call the cops to enforce HIS law? Would be like my neighborhood oulawing cars on our streets.
When I received my permit the chief of police told me the places I was not allowed to carry. True Value wasn't on the list.

You better go ask the chief if trespassing is still against the law. Are you telling me that if you come to my door with a gun in your pocket and I tell you "do not come in here with that gun" it's ok to force yourself in? Just because you have a piece of paper in your pocket that says you can carry your gun?

 

[dems4me]

So you were disrepectful enough to the owners of businesses to carry your weapon into places where they were not allowed? That seems to make you a criminal doesn't it?

sparx

 

[Sparx]

AND the biggest case in point, for concealed carry at businesses.. THE POST OFFICE... it's against the law to carry a concealed weapon into a post office.. but where has some of the worst handgun/gun violence inour country taken place?? Where the criminal KNOWS there is nobody there to stop him.

Yeah I know. My post office gets knocked over at least once a week and the court house, hell, I'm afraid to go there for fear of getting shot.....lol.

 

[itsbob]

You better go ask the chief if trespassing is still against the law. Are you telling me that if you come to my door with a gun in your pocket and I tell you "do not come in here with that gun" it's ok to force yourself in? Just because you have a piece of paper in your pocket that says you can carry your gun?

See, now you're arguing like my 11 year old.. if you can't win make up stuff. Your house and a place of business are two different things. If you don't want me in your house for ANY reason and I "force" myself in, I would be breaking the law. But I never said anything about FORCE, nor did I mention anyone's house.

For one thing, how is the business owner ever going to know I am carrying a weapon, kind of misses the point of it being concealed, unless he unlawfully searches me? Metal detectors? Who's manning them, and WHO at target would have the authority to ask me to empty my pockets and pat me down? She better be beautiful with big knockers for me to comply to that one.. and you skipped right over the point of.. the sign is not going to stop the criminal from bringing a gun into the store with the intent of robbing him. Signs don't stop criminals..

 

[ylexot]

That doesn't make sense. If I tell you I don't want you in my store (for any reason) and you come in anyway, you are trespassing and that is against the law.

Really? So store owners can have signs that say "No blacks"?

 

[Sparx]

Really? So store owners can have signs that say "No blacks"?

Have you ever read a sign that says, " this establishment reserves the right to refuse service to anyone"? I see them all over, mostly in bars and restaurants. AND, most busineses are private property just like my house. Yes, Target has the right to refuse you entrance. Like I said before, go ask your police chief if you can carry your gun legally into a posted place of business.