MMDad said:
The article came from the San Francisco Chronicle, Oct 30th, 2002. Read the whole thing before throwing rocks.
No matter where it came from, the facts are the facts
Most Hummers are owned by a business, they get tax deductions for depreciation and for what it costs to use them.
J
JPC, Sr.
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Faith Without Works is Dead.
There is some truth to that in that the STS Bus might be come from the Base growth and through the years the Pax Navy Base has been a useful and considerate part of our community, but thanks to misguided policies from Hoyer and his employee and others of the local oligarch have made the Pax Navy Base into the outlet of their greed and now are making the Navy Base a liability and a destructive incroachment force into our area, and I will put a stop to it. I do not mean shut down Pax River Naval Base but just make it start acting like a respectful guest in our home.
So still it is not directly the fault of the Navy Base because the Navy must bend to political pressures and it is the duty of the Representative, and especially the Representative of 29B, to protect and defend the area and that is who is at fault because sell-out Bohanan (D-29B) has sold us out - he sold out 29B and so when I get elected in his place then we will bring back some sensible government to this area. And Steny Hoyer will never be my boss, and the STS Buses will keep running.
slik said:
There is some truth to that in that the STS Bus might be come from the Base growth and through the years the Pax Navy Base has been a useful and considerate part of our community, but thanks to misguided policies from Hoyer and his employee and others of the local oligarch have made the Pax Navy Base into the outlet of their greed and now are making the Navy Base a liability and a destructive incroachment force into our area, and I will put a stop to it. I do not mean shut down Pax River Naval Base but just make it start acting like a respectful guest in our home. So still it is not directly the fault of the Navy Base because the Navy must bend to political pressures and it is the duty of the Representative, and especially the Representative of 29B, to protect and defend the area and that is who is at fault because sell-out Bohanan (D-29B) has sold us out - he sold out 29B and so when I get elected in his place then we will bring back some sensible government to this area. And Steny Hoyer will never be my boss, and the STS Buses will keep running.
MMDad
Lem Putt
Since you preach limiting growth of the base, how do you feel about the recently announced 20% reduction in the work force?JPC said:
Will you continue to try to downsize the base beyond that 20%?
Will you work to bring new jobs to the area to replace those that are lost?
ylexot said:
Exactly. I've read tons of statistics which verify that people with cars that are fuel efficient tend to drive more miles than people who have cars that are not; that people with fuel-efficient cars are less likely to carpool, than those that do not have them; and that persons with fuel efficient cars are far more likely to drive alone, than persons with gas-guzzlers.
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JPC, Sr.
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Faith Without Works is Dead.
The Navy knows that the Base is overloading the area and it is trying to act right but it was Mikulski and Hoyer that is fighting the reduction in the work force. Those jobs were ending as the workers were retiring or leaving so no one lost their jobs and the Base does not have housing or infrastructure either. The politicians do not belong in the day-to-day opperations of the Navy Base as it will go by the rules if it is left alone but we have those politicians demanding more workers based on numbers and nothing else. If we had real representation in this area then they would stand up to the greed driven oligarchy and tell them that they are wrong. When I get elected then it will stop. Look at Mikulski and Hoyer acting big in the claims but where is the Rep of 29B???? He is quiet and he is Hoyer's employee and his puppet and our Rep has sold us all out. The Base needs to downsize as it is overloaded. The Navy knows all about infrastructures and affecting communities and the Navy will do right if and when we get the greed driven politicians out of their business.
MMDad said:
The Navy knows that the Base is overloading the area and it is trying to act right but it was Mikulski and Hoyer that is fighting the reduction in the work force. Those jobs were ending as the workers were retiring or leaving so no one lost their jobs and the Base does not have housing or infrastructure either. The politicians do not belong in the day-to-day opperations of the Navy Base as it will go by the rules if it is left alone but we have those politicians demanding more workers based on numbers and nothing else. If we had real representation in this area then they would stand up to the greed driven oligarchy and tell them that they are wrong. When I get elected then it will stop. Look at Mikulski and Hoyer acting big in the claims but where is the Rep of 29B???? He is quiet and he is Hoyer's employee and his puppet and our Rep has sold us all out. The Base needs to downsize as it is overloaded. The Navy knows all about infrastructures and affecting communities and the Navy will do right if and when we get the greed driven politicians out of their business.
SmallTown
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SamSpade said:
Not surpising at all.
But on the other hand, many people buy the high effiency cars because they drive long distances, aren't able to take mass transit, and/or have no people to carpool with. So a statistic such as that is probably valid (though no sources listed), a further look into the reasoning may offer other explanations of why this is the case.
Ponytail
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JPC said:
WHERE in THE hell do you come UP with this shiat?
Ponytail
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Pete said:Balzanad beams it to him from the home planet Goober on channel 78 of his TV.
I'm done. JPC is officially on ignore. I can't take it anymore. I actually wasted about 20 minutes picking apart his last post, then hit myself in the head in anger when I realized that I can never get that 20 minutes back again.
SmallTown said:
No I didn't source my data - I just remember it from looking stuff up for a paper my wife was working on - refuting the ridiculous notion that gas prices are driven up by SUV purchases. One study pretty much confirmed what we both know from experience - people spend as much on gas as they can comfortably afford - it's their budget that drives how much gas they buy. If they drive a gas guzzler - they cut down on drives, consolidate trips, meet friends so they can ride somewhere together and share gas expenses. Another I found actually showed average miles driven increasing for those who drove gas-sipping cars.
DEMAND increases the price of gas - wasting gas doesn't. There isn't significant reason to believe the ownership of SUV's has been driving demand.
Personally, I don't know a single soul who drives an energy efficient vehicle who takes public transportation or who carpools. Who wants to carpool with someone driving a Ford Focus?
I don't know how people can measure this. I mean, years ago, I worked with folks who compile the data that's used for the basis of the Consumer Price Index, and it was fundamentally flawed. It tracked the price of basic consumer expenditures, but what it DIDN'T track was how higher prices caused consumers to find alternatives. For example, beef prices would go way up, and news would be made of the high cost of living - while ignoring the gradual shift to eating chicken and pork. That's just an example, but in most situations, people have a fixed amount of income, and if gas gets to be too expensive, they will find alternatives - BUT they might not be the ones you expect. People BUY SUV's because they do things other cars used to do, but don't anymore - they carry lots of stuff. How many station wagons do you see, nowadays?